The Internets are buzzing about an interview Julian Assange gave to Al Jazeera's Arabic channel Wednesday, in which the WikiLeaks frontman reportedly threatened to release cables showing that various Arab officials were working with the CIA.

He vowed to do so "if I am killed or detained for a long time."

“These officials are spies for the U.S. in their countries,” Assange said, according to Qatar's Peninsula newspaper. More:

The interviewer, Ahmed Mansour, said at the start of the interview which was a continuation of last week’s interface, that Assange had even shown him the files that contained the names of some top Arab officials with alleged links with the CIA. [...]

Some Arab countries even have torture houses where Washington regularly sends ‘suspects’ for ‘interrogation and torture’, he said.

He then complained, "Washington is also projecting me as a terrorist and wants to convince the world that I am another Osama bin Laden."

Observers have long speculated about the massive "insurance" file that WikiLeaks posted on the Pirate Bay, which has by now been downloaded by thousand of people all over the world. Opening the file requires an encryption key that presumably would be released upon Assange's incarceration or untimely death. I guess it's the motherlode.

I have my doubts about these new claims, though. The CIA vigorously protects the identities of its sources, and would have no reason to let any old schmo at a U.S. embassy know their names. It is also highly doubtful that the cables would talk about "torture houses" -- the United States has always denied that it (knowingly) outsources rough treatment to foreign governments. Not everyone believes this, mind you, but I'd be surprised if any embassy cables said otherwise.

Maybe Assange and Mansour are confusing ordinary visits of Arab officials to U.S. diplomats with "spying," but it's hard to say for sure without seeing the cables themselves.

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BEEZLE

5:58 PM ET

December 30, 2010

naive

You can continue believing in the ability of CIA to protect sources or that the US does not 'knowingly' outsource enhanced interrogation or that nobody at an embassy might know this. You don't have too long to wait for the Easter Bunny either.

 

JOHNJANSSEN

6:24 PM ET

December 30, 2010

Who beleaves the US?

The US started enough wars with lies that we can call it an untrusted country.
It wouldnt be wrong to go to countries where only the UN decides to assist, becouse the US will create many more wars with lies.

I was glad to read yesterday that Great Britain opend there eyes and starts to give there citizins there freedoms back.

It is needed that every country works on that.

 

VONRYANSEXPRESS

6:37 PM ET

December 30, 2010

Dr. StrangeAssange

As in the scene in Kubrick's "Dr. Strangelove", where the Soviet Ambassador gets flayed for announcing they have a 'doomsday weapon' when it is too late for the threat to be a deterrent, Assange counts on something that cannot protect him now.

Apart from the veracity of the claims (and they exist only in the minds of those that attend Burning Man for its transformative values) is the uselessness of making threats that reveal how much you fear a certain outcome. The threat becomes secondary and says more than the declarant would have his opponents know.

Mr. Assange would have done better to have stood his ground and been resolute with his in your face conduct instead of groveling and warning of dire revelations. All he's done here is make those in the know aware that he's losing his water and needs a nap and a nappy.

Assange is an unsophisticated man. He's created a hydra headed family of enemies in the foreign services in the Gulf and in the world at large. He'll be the easiest man to remove from public view and the consequences of his insurance file will be no greater than if he was still railing in public.

If Mr. Assange had the 'goods' he currently seeks to have protect him from his outcome, he'd have done a 'show without the tell' to a U.S. Official and the story would then moved to damage control for all concerned.

'Le jeu sont fait, rien va plus' for Mr. Assange now.
His supporters are the same crowd, updated and writ large that cooed over Alger Hiss, but are just as tortured with their bad purposes. Assange's choir would put him on a pedestal but the truth is he's headed for a catafalque and the rest of us will call it rendition.

His enemies are legion.

 

XENOPHON

10:20 PM ET

December 30, 2010

Von Ryan Strike Two

This is the second interview Assange has had recently with The Peninsula/Al Jazeera. In the last one, he said that Wikileaks would release all its messages from the US Embassy in Tel Aviv.

I have no problem with what Assange is doing up to this point. He is certainly not groveling--I don't know how Von Ryan comes up with that word. He is maneuvering tactically. And why shouldn't he? I WILL have a problem if he agrees to withhold information permanently in exchange for his security.

I think he is trying to make Sweden and the UK commit one way or another on the "sex" charges and possible extradition to the US. He is also trying to keep Wikileaks in news as this is one of his best guarantees of safety. The NYT essentially stopped writing articles on the substance of the cables several weeks ago, and the other media (Guardian, etc) have pushed the cables off the front page either because they think all the "good stuff" has been exhausted or for other reasons.

Whether Assange's tactical maneuvers will achieve what he seeks is something we will have to wait to see.

Authoritarians like Von Ryan loathe Assange. it's not that the global public wants to put him on a pedestal. It's that they distrust the motives of the American state and are generally supportive of its exposure in front of the world.

The analogy to Hiss couldn't be more ridiculous. Hiss's counterpart is Jonathan Pollard who puts the interests of another state and its noxious ideology above that of the US--in the case of Hiss, the Marxist Soviet Union, in the case of Pollard, Zionist Israel.

Assange distrusts the centralizing, secretive, and hegemonic tendencies of the modern state. He is more like Kafka, only instead of just WRITING about the excesses of the state, he actually takes action to oppose them.

 

MARLBOROJ

8:12 AM ET

December 31, 2010

It almost sounds as though

It almost sounds as though Von Ryan has a dog getting mauled in this fight.

 

ZONEMIND

8:44 AM ET

January 8, 2011

He's going to get himself

He's going to get himself killed.

Say I'm an enemy of the US. Easiest way for me to hurt the US? Kill Assange. Nothing in those cables can possibly hurt me at home, it's all US propaganda!

I don't care a whit for the political or moral significance of Assange's action, it was an idiotic move of breath-taking naïvete.

 

COUNTCHOCULA1011

12:16 AM ET

December 31, 2010

Sweet...

Here's hoping he releases the documents before he dies or something (who knows when that might be). Happy to see he's unraveling the empire--it's what's best for ourselves and the rest of the world.

 

GRANT

6:30 PM ET

December 31, 2010

I can't say for certain that

I can't say for certain that he doesn't have such information, but I think it safe to say that Mr. Assange is either pandering to the crowd or he honestly has no understanding of the U.S. Despite what people with axes to grind seem to think, this country is not one inclined to murder prisoners. It's one thing (and rather difficult) to keep people captured in Afghanistan in a secretive prison in Guantanamo Bay but even there the Red Cross can visit and lawyers can challenge cases. The idea that a man legally arrested by Sweden and then extradited to the U.S (where he would be legally in the custody of the U.S) would die is rather dubious.

 

ALLHLT

7:25 PM ET

January 1, 2011

hmmmmmm

Happy to see he's unraveling the empire--it's what's best for ourselves and the rest of the world.

how to win the lottery

 

HARLANANELSON

8:42 PM ET

January 1, 2011

Harlan

There is something I don't understand about claims of torture by the US. I assume the important interrogation is done by psychologists, intelligence officers and technicians who don't really need the cooperation of the prisoner to get the information they need. Brain waves can be measured, body language can be read and psychological methods can be used to learn everything a person knows. Why would anyone resort to drills in prisoners knees? I would be very suprised to find that tecnology in the US has not gone way beyond the methods described by conspiracy theorists.

Other: Assange has a card he can only play post-posthumously. But then the trusted people with the code will also be in the same position of having a card that can only be played post-posthumously. But in the end, if my logic serves, the card can never be played at all because there would be no one alive to play it.

 

STACYX

10:33 PM ET

January 1, 2011

Interesting that the media

Interesting that the media isn't talking too much about this interview he gave, particularly the part where he said that he tried to get his western media contacts to publish cables relating to Israel but they didn't want them. That's a pretty big story, if true, don't 'cha think?

 

GRANT

12:31 AM ET

January 3, 2011

Right now people are only

Right now people are only interested in local news. You need good times before they care about foreign affairs.

 

KRYPTER

5:37 PM ET

January 5, 2011

Selfish scam artist

Assange is a selfish, megalomaniacal scam artist pushing an anti-American agenda, and he'll soon be sitting in an American prison for life. Good riddance to this trash.

 

OBLABLA

8:18 PM ET

January 15, 2011

disneyleaks

Wasn't Mrs Wilson a CIA agent in Niger, when her name was released, rather than protected? I am missing something ?
Vonryanexpress must have memory leaks that Mr Assange could fix.

 

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